Both Amamiya and Kurusu both said their Persona come from within them. Demon are separate entities of their own. Creatures of free will that live out there in time and space.
[Not "out in the world", because they can occupy many worlds. Many dimensions.]
See what seemed like my demons come from them was... startling. Kurusu even commands Kohryu and Futsunushi. Gods, who were among my own roster as well.
I know there are many worlds out there, possibly countless. That there are multiple versions of places and people. But coming across something like that makes it feel much smaller.
Who said those Persona weren't demons who live inside them?
[Though the free will part would be a difference if the Persona simply do as their told compared to Raidou's demons, which are more contractual partnership.
To get this straight...]
Two "gods" from your roster of demons you contracted with in your world are Persona with no free will in theirs.
And they're not from your world's future or past, even with those similarities.
I don't think they are. And even though Amamiya and Kurusu seem like they're the same person, with so many similarities, they are not. Slight differences, but different enough.
I had to fight Kohryu and Futsunushi, and talk with them, in order to have them agree to work with me. Demons want you to prove yourself in some way, and it's usually through battle. So they know their summoner is worthy. If their Persona come from within, I am not sure how they earned or gained. I will need to ask Kurusu.
[A slight pause, because really, there probably isn't a nicer thing anyone in the universes for Raidou than try to get his demons back for him. He's pretty touched.]
[He knows Raidou's improved his ability with his sword, strengthened his body, gotten stronger over and over. But there's nothing like having a part of yourself, once removed, then returned.]
Aa. Let me know if you succeed.
[He'll probably offer to transfer the payment to Raidou if it goes through.]
They can bring a lot back now compared to January.
That's right. He asked me to check is out sometime since I can detect spirits. See what I can tell about them. I'm not sure I'll know much about spirits from another world, but I'm willing to try.
If I manage to get my demons here, I'll be sure you get to meet them right away.
[Which shall never be repeated for Manjoume to hear, right, Raidou?
Ren's Persona and Kadaj's wolves seemed more the kind to listen to orders rather than run off and be their own person. Maybe that's how they got by? Or if they were their own person, that part of them was left behind when they were brought over, like Manjoume's duel monsters.]
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[Not "out in the world", because they can occupy many worlds. Many dimensions.]
See what seemed like my demons come from them was... startling. Kurusu even commands Kohryu and Futsunushi. Gods, who were among my own roster as well.
I know there are many worlds out there, possibly countless. That there are multiple versions of places and people. But coming across something like that makes it feel much smaller.
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[Though the free will part would be a difference if the Persona simply do as their told compared to Raidou's demons, which are more contractual partnership.
To get this straight...]
Two "gods" from your roster of demons you contracted with in your world are Persona with no free will in theirs.
And they're not from your world's future or past, even with those similarities.
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I had to fight Kohryu and Futsunushi, and talk with them, in order to have them agree to work with me. Demons want you to prove yourself in some way, and it's usually through battle. So they know their summoner is worthy. If their Persona come from within, I am not sure how they earned or gained. I will need to ask Kurusu.
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Aa. I wanna know what the difference is too. If he tells you, let me know. Unless he swears you to secrecy.
[There's another pause before he sighs and leans back on the bed.]
I asked if LILITH could bring one of your demons back.
[Partially since he hadn't been able to pay for Raidou's upgrade surgery. Obviously it hadn't worked.]
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You did? Really?
What did they say?
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[Other people can't ask for things from home for other people.]
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[A slight pause, because really, there probably isn't a nicer thing anyone in the universes for Raidou than try to get his demons back for him. He's pretty touched.]
Thank you for trying. I greatly appreciate it.
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[He knows Raidou's improved his ability with his sword, strengthened his body, gotten stronger over and over. But there's nothing like having a part of yourself, once removed, then returned.]
Aa. Let me know if you succeed.
[He'll probably offer to transfer the payment to Raidou if it goes through.]
They can bring a lot back now compared to January.
[A beat.]
Over, not back.
[Cause none of them originated here.]
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I'll let you know what happens.
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[Though speaking of that-]
Buzzsaw Hair said his Duel Spirits weren't the same as his home when he got them back.
They couldn't talk back to him or act out on their own, but they could still follow orders and physically interact with things.
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If I manage to get my demons here, I'll be sure you get to meet them right away.
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[Which shall never be repeated for Manjoume to hear, right, Raidou?
Ren's Persona and Kadaj's wolves seemed more the kind to listen to orders rather than run off and be their own person. Maybe that's how they got by? Or if they were their own person, that part of them was left behind when they were brought over, like Manjoume's duel monsters.]
If you do, I want another spar.
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[This will be his "ticket" for that privilege.
As for another topic...]
I got a lot of medical plants and seeds from the apothecary. We can add those to the collection.
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I also managed to save my seeds.
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