I know. But it makes me wonder what else is out there. Normally I can sense magnetite - the thing in spirits and people that give them the ability to use magic and powers. The only time I ever sense it here is from other Outsiders. The vampires in the village didn't even read as vampires to me.
It all works so differently here than from my home world.
So you can't form a summon pact with anyone infected?
[If that reads somewhat disappointed... it is. He's always felt frustrated about not being able to work with Raidou as well as Yuji and Choso, due to the lack of "otherworldly" in himself.
But at least it's one more proof the affliction is natural rather than supernatural.]
Know-it-All and I talked about that. Whether energy from our worlds made it here or if this place's energy substitutes.
For me, it's just... different. The world itself seems devoid of magic energy, but I think it might be more of a case of something I just can't pick up. The other Outsiders, those I can. But even then, they're just, well, different.
So far, no one comes even close to being the same from my world. Though, the closest has to be Akira Kurusu.
Which is why it only seems that way. I think this world is just to different in a way for me to pick up on.
But it's exactly that, isn't it? Everyone is drawing from something, even if I can't sense it myself.
Correct. And Persona seem to come from within. Even if some of their Persona were identical to my demons, there was still that difference about them. Perhaps that's why my demons could not be brought with me. They're individual entities.
Both Amamiya and Kurusu both said their Persona come from within them. Demon are separate entities of their own. Creatures of free will that live out there in time and space.
[Not "out in the world", because they can occupy many worlds. Many dimensions.]
See what seemed like my demons come from them was... startling. Kurusu even commands Kohryu and Futsunushi. Gods, who were among my own roster as well.
I know there are many worlds out there, possibly countless. That there are multiple versions of places and people. But coming across something like that makes it feel much smaller.
Who said those Persona weren't demons who live inside them?
[Though the free will part would be a difference if the Persona simply do as their told compared to Raidou's demons, which are more contractual partnership.
To get this straight...]
Two "gods" from your roster of demons you contracted with in your world are Persona with no free will in theirs.
And they're not from your world's future or past, even with those similarities.
I don't think they are. And even though Amamiya and Kurusu seem like they're the same person, with so many similarities, they are not. Slight differences, but different enough.
I had to fight Kohryu and Futsunushi, and talk with them, in order to have them agree to work with me. Demons want you to prove yourself in some way, and it's usually through battle. So they know their summoner is worthy. If their Persona come from within, I am not sure how they earned or gained. I will need to ask Kurusu.
[A slight pause, because really, there probably isn't a nicer thing anyone in the universes for Raidou than try to get his demons back for him. He's pretty touched.]
[He knows Raidou's improved his ability with his sword, strengthened his body, gotten stronger over and over. But there's nothing like having a part of yourself, once removed, then returned.]
Aa. Let me know if you succeed.
[He'll probably offer to transfer the payment to Raidou if it goes through.]
They can bring a lot back now compared to January.
That's right. He asked me to check is out sometime since I can detect spirits. See what I can tell about them. I'm not sure I'll know much about spirits from another world, but I'm willing to try.
If I manage to get my demons here, I'll be sure you get to meet them right away.
[Which shall never be repeated for Manjoume to hear, right, Raidou?
Ren's Persona and Kadaj's wolves seemed more the kind to listen to orders rather than run off and be their own person. Maybe that's how they got by? Or if they were their own person, that part of them was left behind when they were brought over, like Manjoume's duel monsters.]
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It all works so differently here than from my home world.
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[If that reads somewhat disappointed... it is. He's always felt frustrated about not being able to work with Raidou as well as Yuji and Choso, due to the lack of "otherworldly" in himself.
But at least it's one more proof the affliction is natural rather than supernatural.]
Know-it-All and I talked about that. Whether energy from our worlds made it here or if this place's energy substitutes.
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[Sorry, friend. You know he would if he could.]
For me, it's just... different. The world itself seems devoid of magic energy, but I think it might be more of a case of something I just can't pick up. The other Outsiders, those I can. But even then, they're just, well, different.
So far, no one comes even close to being the same from my world. Though, the closest has to be Akira Kurusu.
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[Lucky them.]
How can it be devoid of magic energy when Outsiders who use magic still have their skills?
Chakra, cursed energy, imaginary energy, magic, manna, all that shit exists here somehow.
[He's not disagreeing with Raidou. More thinking out loud. In text.]
Cause both versions of him use Persona.
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But it's exactly that, isn't it? Everyone is drawing from something, even if I can't sense it myself.
Correct. And Persona seem to come from within. Even if some of their Persona were identical to my demons, there was still that difference about them. Perhaps that's why my demons could not be brought with me. They're individual entities.
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If they are, either this world substitutes, or some tether back to our on worlds exist.
What makes a Persona different from your demons? People have personal demons, right?
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[Not "out in the world", because they can occupy many worlds. Many dimensions.]
See what seemed like my demons come from them was... startling. Kurusu even commands Kohryu and Futsunushi. Gods, who were among my own roster as well.
I know there are many worlds out there, possibly countless. That there are multiple versions of places and people. But coming across something like that makes it feel much smaller.
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[Though the free will part would be a difference if the Persona simply do as their told compared to Raidou's demons, which are more contractual partnership.
To get this straight...]
Two "gods" from your roster of demons you contracted with in your world are Persona with no free will in theirs.
And they're not from your world's future or past, even with those similarities.
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I had to fight Kohryu and Futsunushi, and talk with them, in order to have them agree to work with me. Demons want you to prove yourself in some way, and it's usually through battle. So they know their summoner is worthy. If their Persona come from within, I am not sure how they earned or gained. I will need to ask Kurusu.
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Aa. I wanna know what the difference is too. If he tells you, let me know. Unless he swears you to secrecy.
[There's another pause before he sighs and leans back on the bed.]
I asked if LILITH could bring one of your demons back.
[Partially since he hadn't been able to pay for Raidou's upgrade surgery. Obviously it hadn't worked.]
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You did? Really?
What did they say?
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[Other people can't ask for things from home for other people.]
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[A slight pause, because really, there probably isn't a nicer thing anyone in the universes for Raidou than try to get his demons back for him. He's pretty touched.]
Thank you for trying. I greatly appreciate it.
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[He knows Raidou's improved his ability with his sword, strengthened his body, gotten stronger over and over. But there's nothing like having a part of yourself, once removed, then returned.]
Aa. Let me know if you succeed.
[He'll probably offer to transfer the payment to Raidou if it goes through.]
They can bring a lot back now compared to January.
[A beat.]
Over, not back.
[Cause none of them originated here.]
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I'll let you know what happens.
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[Though speaking of that-]
Buzzsaw Hair said his Duel Spirits weren't the same as his home when he got them back.
They couldn't talk back to him or act out on their own, but they could still follow orders and physically interact with things.
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If I manage to get my demons here, I'll be sure you get to meet them right away.
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[Which shall never be repeated for Manjoume to hear, right, Raidou?
Ren's Persona and Kadaj's wolves seemed more the kind to listen to orders rather than run off and be their own person. Maybe that's how they got by? Or if they were their own person, that part of them was left behind when they were brought over, like Manjoume's duel monsters.]
If you do, I want another spar.
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[This will be his "ticket" for that privilege.
As for another topic...]
I got a lot of medical plants and seeds from the apothecary. We can add those to the collection.
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I also managed to save my seeds.
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